The band “P” formed in early 1993 while Johnny Depp was filming What’s Eating Gilbert Grape in Austin, Texas with Leonardo DiCaprio. The lineup included Gibby Haynes (vocals), Sal Jenco (percussion), songwriter Bill Carter (guitar/bass), and Johnny Depp (guitar/bass). The band performed their first show at the Austin Music Awards in March of 1993 and released the first and only album on November 21, 1995. “Michael Stipe” was the only single released. Below are the lyrics and, once again, their debut performance:

I finally talked to Michael Stipe, he touched me on my arm. I met him up in the Hollywood Hills, among the movie and TV stars. I’m glad I met old Michael Stipe, I didn’t get to see his car, him and River Phoenix were leaving on the road tomorrow, and I tonight. Michael Stipe cried tonight. Then I met old Michael Stipe, I met the girl in his video too. Sophia Coppola looked at me, I didn’t know what the hell to do. I’m glad I met old Michael that day up the Laurel Canyon way. Neil said it was full of famous stars, hell I was driving Johnny Depp’s car. Michael Stipe and I, tonight. Michael Stipe. We said goodbye to John Frusciante at his Chateau Marmont suites, but we couldn’t find a part not a piece of our heart, not Michael, River Phoenix or Flea or me. I guess I’ll go back to Texas soon, leave these Hollywood Hills, cuz I’ll shoot myself dead with a gun in my head cuz that’s what this town would have me to do.

The Lineup

Bill Carter is an accomplished musician from Austin, Sal Jenco was an old pal of Depp’s from 21 Jump Street, and Gibby Haynes was the lead singer for The Butthole Surfers. Also from Austin, Haynes was thirty-five years old when he joined P and used to be an accountant for KPMG, one of the largest professional services companies in the world and one of the Big Four auditors. He was also named Accounting Student of The Year at Trinity University. Although he appears to be a loud-mouthed drunk onstage, Haynes is obviously a well-educated man. Also an artist, he designed the album art for P.

So, what’s the P stand for? In an interview with David Letterman, Depp proclaimed that it was nothing more than a letter from the alphabet, and while I can’t dispute that, I imagine it carries much more significance. Both Depp and Carter share matching phoenix tattoos on the backside of their hands. They also love their skull rings.


The Phoenix Program

During the Vietnam War in the 1960’s and 1970’s, the CIA and United States special operations forces carried out torture on South Vietnam citizens. The Program was designed to identify and neutralize the infrastructure of the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam. Douglas Valentine’s book, The Phoenix Program, published in 1990, outlines the horrific methods of torture said to have been used at the interrogation centers:

RaPhoenix_Program_(edit)pe, gang rape, rape using eels, snakes, or hard objects, and rape followed by murder; electric shock (‘the Bell Telephone Hour’) rendered by attaching wires to the genitals or other sensitive parts of the body, like the tongue; the ‘water treatment’; the ‘airplane’ in which the prisoner’s arms were tied behind the back, and the rope looped over a hook on the ceiling, suspending the prisoner in midair, after which he or she was beaten; beatings with rubber hoses and whips; the use of police dogs to maul prisoners…

The list goes on and on. 

Also from his book, Valentine writes:

Francis Reitemeyer, a Seton Hall Divinity School dropout was drafted and attended officer candidate school in late 1968. Along with forty other air defense artillery officers, Reitemeyer was trained at Fort Holabird for duty as a Phoenix coordinator in Vietnam. He was appalled by the instruction he received from veteran Phoenix advisers. Loath to participate in what he considered a program that targeted civilians for assassination, some VVAW members contend that the murders of [Dr. Martin Luther] King, and other less notable victims, were the work of a domestic-variety Phoenix hit team. Some say it still exists.


The artwork created by Gibby Haynes for the inside spread of the album looks eerily like a victim being tortured using the methods described in Valentine’s book. The eel-like figures with forked tongues target the genital and head area, and the victim has five different faces which is an indication of multiple-personality.
In the three smaller pictures, “Michael Stipe” appears to be under some sort of hypnotism with the spiral design used for one of his eyes, and the others dilated and looking off in opposite directions. I’ll return to the artwork later, but the concept of multiple-personality and hypnotism brings us to the CIA and Project MK Ultra.
“I’m glad I met old Michael that day, up the Laurel Canyon way.” (P)

Located in the Hollywood Hills of Los Angeles, California, Laurel Canyon is a favorite neighborhood among celebrities. According to author and researcher Dave McGowan, it’s also the catalyst for the 1960’s hippie movement that involved an astounding number of military sons and daughters. Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Frank Zappa, Jackson Browne, David Crosby, Gram Parsons and Stephen Stills (just to name a few) all have some sort of military/government connection.

“These icons were, to an overwhelming degree, the sons and daughters of the military/intelligence complex and the scions of families that have wielded vast wealth and power in this country for a very long time. Are we to believe that the only kids from that era who had musical talent were the sons and daughters of Navy Admirals, chemical warfare engineers and Air Force intelligence officers? Or are they just the only ones who were signed to lucrative contracts and relentlessly promoted by their labels and the media?”  Dave McGowan

In his book, “Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon,” McGowan also touches on a little known studio called Lookout Mountain Laboratory which was originally envisioned as an air defense center. Hidden from view and surrounded by an electric fence, the facility featured a fully operational movie studio.

Weird_Scenes1“With 100,000 square feet of floor space, the covert studio included sound stages, screening rooms, film processing labs, editing facilities, an animation department, and seventeen climate-controlled film vaults. It also had underground parking, a helicopter pad and a bomb shelter.” Dave McGowan

It’s also believed that the facility was used by the CIA to create films for MK Ultra mind control programming. Project MK Ultra began in the early 1950’s and was used by the CIA to force confessions through mind control. Numerous methodologies were implemented to manipulate people’s mental states and alter brain functions, including the administration of drugs, hypnosis, sexual abuse and various forms of torture. Lawrence Teeter, attorney for convicted assassin Sirhan Sirhan, believed Sirhan was under the influence of hypnosis when he fired his weapon at Robert F. Kennedy in 1968. Teeter linked the CIA’s MK Ultra program to mind control techniques that he claimed were used to control Sirhan. Much like The Phoenix Program, Project MK Ultra used horrendous forms of torture to manipulate, control and break the will of the victim.


RiverPhoenix10So what does it all mean?

Consider the timeline of events: the formation of P in March of 1993, the grand opening of the Viper Room in August of 1993, the club’s address 8852 Sunset Blvd (8+8+5+2=23), River’s 23rd birthday on August 23, 1993, his last name officially changed to Phoenix on his birth certificate in March of 1993, the anagram of his name (VIPER HEROIN X), and finally, his death on Halloween morning—I think it’s obvious we can rule out coincidence. This is the work of highly sophisticated occultists, the Kingship River sang about in his song Soul Removal, but who are the murderless helping hands? Is it possible they are murderless because they’re under some sort of mind control, or at the very least, helping to trigger the Manchurian Candidate? It’s interesting to note that hypnosis can be triggered through sounds, words, symbols, touches, smells, and electromagnetic signals.

In 1995, Frusciante played a solo show at the Viper Room. Before playing the song, “Life’s a Bath,” he told the audience,

“This is the song I was supposed to play the night River died. Maybe if I’d been able to play it, he wouldn’t have died.”

Numerous accounts of that last night in question have River and Frusciante arguing with the Viper Room’s Sound Guy about setting them up for an acoustic session. According to Frusciante,

“The guy was being an asshole and wouldn’t set up the mic for the guitar.”

Here’s what Gibby Haynes said about that night:

“We were playing a song and River Phoenix was right down in front of me, to the left. We started the song “Michael Stipe,” and it’s got River’s name it, so it was going to be cool, he’s a friend of mine and he’d never heard the song. So we were singing up on stage, ‘Him and River Phoenix were…’ And right at that moment, he was basically on the sidewalk. I saw him right at the beginning of the song, then I didn’t see River anymore.”

It’s difficult to say whether Haynes and River were actually friends or not, but like clockwork or some sort of sick magic act, by the time they finished playing “Michael Stipe,” River Phoenix was dead.

In Conclusion:

While the concept of mind control sounds like science fiction, we know it exists. Through declassified documents from the CIA as well as first-hand accounts from numerous victims, hypnotism and mind control are frighteningly real. I’ve done my fair share of scoffing at You Tube videos claiming that every celebrity on the face of this planet is under some form of MK Ultra mind control, but now, I’m more convinced than ever before. Considering the quote from Douglas Valentine’s book published in 1990, that some VVAW members believe the murder of Martin Luther King was the work of a domestic-variety Phoenix hit team (and some say it still exists), I can’t help but wonder if that includes Hollywood.

If Johnny Depp and Bill Carter, with their matching tattoos, are also members of a domestic-Hollywood variety of the Phoenix hit team, does that make Michael Stipe the Manchurian Candidate? The idea sounds absurd, but much like the 1960’s icons written about in Dave McGowan’s book, Stipe is also a military son. Although he never talks about his childhood, it is known that he was a military brat who moved around a lot, relocating from base to base. His father, whose name remains a mystery, is said to have been a helicopter pilot in the Vietnam War. Born on January 4 in 1960, Michael Stipe came into the world at the height of the CIA’s most covert mind control operations—The Phoenix Project, Bluebird, Artichoke, and MK Ultra.

Michael Stipe Cried Tonight 

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